Question about Motorola and Certificates

Discussion:

Markus Sinner

2008-05-07 08:02:35 UTC

Hello there,

maybe some of you has experience with motorla phones. I did not get my
certificates working on Motorola devices. We have Verisign and Thawte
Certificates, which work on most phones. Only Motorola Devices like V3,
L2, e770v and some other models do not accept the signatures.

Common error messages are: "Authentication error. Application not
installed.".

If anybody knows if I need Certs from Motorola and where to get them
from / whom to contact, it would help me.

So far - any help would be appreciated!

Markus
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Ed Welch

2008-05-07 15:19:46 UTC

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Motorola only allows certificates that are issued by them. You're probably
asking in the wrong place by the way. Try developer.motorola.com

Post by Markus Sinner
Hello there,
maybe some of you has experience with motorla phones. I did not get my
certificates working on Motorola devices. We have Verisign and Thawte
Certificates, which work on most phones. Only Motorola Devices like V3,
L2, e770v and some other models do not accept the signatures.
Common error messages are: "Authentication error. Application not
installed.".
If anybody knows if I need Certs from Motorola and where to get them
from / whom to contact, it would help me.
So far - any help would be appreciated!
Markus
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Setera Craig

2008-05-07 15:44:05 UTC

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Don't they also support Java Verified certificates by default? The
other thing to always remember is that a lot of this is controlled by
the carriers. While Moto may support a particular certificate on an
unbranded/unlocked phone, the carriers are free to hack them up...
generally they do this to lock them down tightly to their carrier...

Post by Ed Welch
Motorola only allows certificates that are issued by them. You're
probably asking in the wrong place by the way. Try
developer.motorola.com
Hello there,
maybe some of you has experience with motorla phones. I did not get my
certificates working on Motorola devices. We have Verisign and Thawte
Certificates, which work on most phones. Only Motorola Devices like V3,
L2, e770v and some other models do not accept the signatures.
Common error messages are: "Authentication error. Application not
installed.".
If anybody knows if I need Certs from Motorola and where to get them
from / whom to contact, it would help me.
So far - any help would be appreciated!
Markus
--
*********************************
http://www.psitronic.de
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Ed Welch

2008-05-08 06:56:20 UTC

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Don't know about java verified. I assumed he was talking about certificates
for restricted apis (i.e. jsr 75)

Don't they also support Java Verified certificates by default? The other
thing to always remember is that a lot of this is controlled by the
carriers. While Moto may support a particular certificate on an
unbranded/unlocked phone, the carriers are free to hack them up... generally
they do this to lock them down tightly to their carrier...
Motorola only allows certificates that are issued by them. You're probably
asking in the wrong place by the way. Try developer.motorola.com

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Marcel Ruff

2008-05-08 08:29:58 UTC

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Hi,

does anybody know where i can get a free test certificate to
test the J2me application if it behaves as expected before buying
one?

Is it possible to create an own certificate and use for example
with the WTK 2.5.2 emulator for Linux?

Thanks
Marcel
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Setera Craig

2008-05-08 11:01:26 UTC

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If you look in the EclipseME documentation, there is a discussion for
creating a self-signed key for test purposes. http://eclipseme.org/docs/refSigning.html#getKey
This will *not* work for devices.

Post by Marcel Ruff
Hi,
does anybody know where i can get a free test certificate to
test the J2me application if it behaves as expected before buying
one?
Is it possible to create an own certificate and use for example
with the WTK 2.5.2 emulator for Linux?
Thanks
Marcel
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Marcel Ruff

2008-05-08 12:00:17 UTC

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Post by Setera Craig
If you look in the EclipseME documentation, there is a discussion for
creating a self-signed key for test purposes. http://eclipseme.org/docs/refSigning.html#getKey
This will *not* work for devices.

A good description, thank you.

If i understand correctly there is no way to emulate / try without
buying a certificate at Thawte, Verisign et al.

Marcel

Post by Setera Craig

Marcel Ruff

2008-05-08 12:03:21 UTC

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Post by Marcel Ruff

A good description, thank you.
If i understand correctly there is no way to emulate / try without
buying a certificate at Thawte, Verisign et al.

Sorry, i've just reread the 'Emulation' section.
So it should be possible in WTK 2.5.2 ...

Thanks
Marcel

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Marcel Ruff

2008-05-08 12:05:34 UTC

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Post by Setera Craig
http://eclipseme.org/docs/refSigning.html#getKey

Just for your information:
The two links at the very bottom are not working anymore.

Thanks
Marcel

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Setera Craig

2008-05-08 10:59:59 UTC

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Java Verified was supposed to be the way to do that and have it work
for al devices (see http://javaverified.com/) Unfortunately, that
takes away too much control from he carriers and many will not honor
those signing certificates.

Post by Ed Welch
Don't know about java verified. I assumed he was talking about
certificates for restricted apis (i.e. jsr 75)
Don't they also support Java Verified certificates by default? The
other thing to always remember is that a lot of this is controlled
by the carriers. While Moto may support a particular certificate on
an unbranded/unlocked phone, the carriers are free to hack them
up... generally they do this to lock them down tightly to their
carrier...

Post by Ed Welch
Motorola only allows certificates that are issued by them. You're
probably asking in the wrong place by the way. Try
developer.motorola.com
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Markus Sinner
Hello there,
maybe some of you has experience with motorla phones. I did not get my
certificates working on Motorola devices. We have Verisign and Thawte
Certificates, which work on most phones. Only Motorola Devices like V3,
L2, e770v and some other models do not accept the signatures.
Common error messages are: "Authentication error. Application not
installed.".
If anybody knows if I need Certs from Motorola and where to get them
from / whom to contact, it would help me.
So far - any help would be appreciated!
Markus
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