Discussion:
Sanity check
Russel Winder
2008-10-11 18:29:41 UTC
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I have EclipseME 1.7.9 installed in Eclipse 3.4 running on Ubuntu 8.04
Hardy Heron. I also have NetBeans 6.5beta with the all the Mobility
plugins on the same Ubuntu.

As far as I can tell both treat projects as MIDlet Suites. NetBeans
seems to insist on always executing the entire suite from the JAD, there
seems no way of executing a MIDlet directly. Conversely EclipseME seems
not to be able to execute suites but can only execute individual
MIDlets. Is this true or have I missed something.

Thanks.

(IntelliJ IDEA seems to have support for JavaME but no way of actually
executing code so even though its code checking support is far more
advanced that Eclipse, EclipseME still wins :-)
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Craig Setera
2008-10-20 01:12:40 UTC
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Russel,

I think you are pretty close in your assessment. I just fixed a bug in
MTJ for supported WTK 3.0 and also noted this in the bug report:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=251325

Craig
Post by Russel Winder
I have EclipseME 1.7.9 installed in Eclipse 3.4 running on Ubuntu 8.04
Hardy Heron. I also have NetBeans 6.5beta with the all the Mobility
plugins on the same Ubuntu.
As far as I can tell both treat projects as MIDlet Suites. NetBeans
seems to insist on always executing the entire suite from the JAD, there
seems no way of executing a MIDlet directly. Conversely EclipseME seems
not to be able to execute suites but can only execute individual
MIDlets. Is this true or have I missed something.
Thanks.
(IntelliJ IDEA seems to have support for JavaME but no way of actually
executing code so even though its code checking support is far more
advanced that Eclipse, EclipseME still wins :-)
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Russel Winder
2008-10-20 06:10:22 UTC
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Craig,

OK, thanks for that feedback. Now the course is over I shall switch all
projects over to MTJ.

I guess this email list will morph into MTJ Users? -- given that MTJ is
effectively just a rebranding of EclipseME 1.9.0.

I am having some issues with applying the "Change to Java ME MIDlet
suite" action to an Eclipse J2ME MIDlet suite, it starts and then hangs.
I will try again and take a more detailed log -- and I guess report on
the MTJ development mailing list? (There doesn't seem to be an MTJ
Users list.)
Post by Craig Setera
Russel,
I think you are pretty close in your assessment. I just fixed a bug in
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=251325
Craig
Post by Russel Winder
I have EclipseME 1.7.9 installed in Eclipse 3.4 running on Ubuntu 8.04
Hardy Heron. I also have NetBeans 6.5beta with the all the Mobility
plugins on the same Ubuntu.
As far as I can tell both treat projects as MIDlet Suites. NetBeans
seems to insist on always executing the entire suite from the JAD, there
seems no way of executing a MIDlet directly. Conversely EclipseME seems
not to be able to execute suites but can only execute individual
MIDlets. Is this true or have I missed something.
Thanks.
(IntelliJ IDEA seems to have support for JavaME but no way of actually
executing code so even though its code checking support is far more
advanced that Eclipse, EclipseME still wins :-)
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Setera Craig
2008-10-20 11:15:28 UTC
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Russel,

Please also take a look at the new blog entry I wrote last night that
talks about the MTJ mailing list versus the news group. User
questions should be routed to the newsgroup.

Thanks,
Craig
Post by Russel Winder
Craig,
OK, thanks for that feedback. Now the course is over I shall switch all
projects over to MTJ.
I guess this email list will morph into MTJ Users? -- given that MTJ is
effectively just a rebranding of EclipseME 1.9.0.
I am having some issues with applying the "Change to Java ME MIDlet
suite" action to an Eclipse J2ME MIDlet suite, it starts and then hangs.
I will try again and take a more detailed log -- and I guess report on
the MTJ development mailing list? (There doesn't seem to be an MTJ
Users list.)
Post by Craig Setera
Russel,
I think you are pretty close in your assessment. I just fixed a bug in
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=251325
Craig
Post by Russel Winder
I have EclipseME 1.7.9 installed in Eclipse 3.4 running on Ubuntu 8.04
Hardy Heron. I also have NetBeans 6.5beta with the all the Mobility
plugins on the same Ubuntu.
As far as I can tell both treat projects as MIDlet Suites. NetBeans
seems to insist on always executing the entire suite from the JAD, there
seems no way of executing a MIDlet directly. Conversely EclipseME seems
not to be able to execute suites but can only execute individual
MIDlets. Is this true or have I missed something.
Thanks.
(IntelliJ IDEA seems to have support for JavaME but no way of actually
executing code so even though its code checking support is far more
advanced that Eclipse, EclipseME still wins :-)
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Russel Winder
2008-10-20 16:05:27 UTC
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Craig,

Is there a URL for the blog (sorry if I should know but... :-)
Post by Craig Setera
Russel,
Please also take a look at the new blog entry I wrote last night that
talks about the MTJ mailing list versus the news group. User
questions should be routed to the newsgroup.
Is this a newgroup as in a forum?
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Setera Craig
2008-10-20 16:12:20 UTC
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http://eclipseme.org :-)
Post by Russel Winder
Craig,
Is there a URL for the blog (sorry if I should know but... :-)
Post by Craig Setera
Russel,
Please also take a look at the new blog entry I wrote last night that
talks about the MTJ mailing list versus the news group. User
questions should be routed to the newsgroup.
Is this a newgroup as in a forum?
--
Russel.
====================================================
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Russel Winder
2008-10-20 16:38:58 UTC
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Craig,
Post by Setera Craig
http://eclipseme.org :-)
:-)

The 2008-10-19 entry shows people how to transfer a project, but I don't
see it mentioning about mail lists and things -- or am I being blind as
well as stupid?

(I have now deleted EclipseME and am an MTJ user, so there is now now
way back :-)

PS Although J2ME should be changed to Java ME everywhere in EclipseME
and MTJ land, I found it very useful during the change from EclipseME ->
MTJ that EclipseME still uses J2ME whilst MTJ uses Java ME.
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